Daily Archives: January 16, 2008

Questions – Maccabean Revolt

A couple of questions arose in Bible study which were unable to be adequately answered in discussion:

1.  Regarding 2 Mc 7, the 7 brothers and their mom had unwavering faith in God and were able to withstand their tormentors due to their hope (as in certainty in the goodness and fidelity of God, as opposed to wishful thinking) in the Lord.  They knew that God would raise them, and had complete faith in this, and were so able to look beyond the horrible things which were done to them.  Where did they get this faith in the resurrection?  Paragraph 992 of the Catechism states that, “God revealed the resurrection of the dead to his people progressively.”  Okay, how was this progressively revealed to the people such that by the time of this event, the woman and her sons would have such great faith?  The reference in the Catechism begins with this text in Maccabees, and continues to talk of Jesus’s ministry.  So, how was this shown prior to Maccabees?  The only thing that I could think of, and I admit that it’s not a stunning argument, is when Elijah was taken up in the fiery chariot.  But this would only seem to point to a reality outside of that which we concretely know now here on Earth, not necessarily on the resurrection of the dead (since he didn’t “die”).  And, we haven’t gotten to the New Testament quite yet, but isn’t there a part where Jesus goes up to the mountain and sees Elijah and Moses?  *That* would point to a resurrection of the dead, since, I believe, Moses died.  However, if I’m remembering correctly about that story (and it is in the NT and not the OT), it still doesn’t explain the faith of this family during the time of the Maccabean Revolt.  Any ideas?

2.  On a tangent to our discussion (since we were reading one of the deuterocanon books, the conversation drifted to the canon of Scripture), we were noting that the Protestants and the Hebrews use a shorter canon that does not include 7 books of the Old Testament which were in the Greek Septuagint that the Catholic Church has used to define their canon.  Alright, I don’t (at the moment) have a question about the canon; however, if the Hebrew canon doesn’t have Maccabees, how do they preserve the tradition of Hanukkah, seeing as that story is told in Maccabees?  Or is it found elsewhere in Hebrew-accepted Scripture?

First Anniversary

Okay, so yesterday I was late getting out the door, later still after clearing the snow off the car, and slightly delayed due to slower (although not horrible) traffic.  End result?  I was about 4 minutes late for Mass.

This means that I came in as the Gospel was being proclaimed.  What?!?  I wasn’t that late!  He must have known that I was going to be late and got everyone to agree to skip the first reading and started with the responsorial psalm.  Seriously.  Okay, okay.  He wouldn’t do that, but I thought I was doing pretty good, here to find out I missed almost half of Mass.  Maybe it just took me 10 minutes to walk from the parking lot to the chapel?

Anyway, I had the vague impression that there was something that I had wanted to say to Fr. John after Mass, but I could not remember what it was.  Sometimes I have a horrible memory, so during Benediction, I just kept looking at the Lord in the Blessed Sacrament, trying to remember if there was something that I should be remembering.

Ah ha!  (Thank You!)  I was going to tell Fr. John that yesterday was my one year of coming into the church (building) and going up to an usher after Mass and asking, “How do you join?”

So, I stand outside the sacristy after Mass, ready to pounce, along with the other parishioners who have questions for him.  As incoherent as I often am in e-mails and blogs, I am usually far more incoherent in person, speaking.  So, I can totally understand if he thinks I’m a bubblehead.  That and I laugh a lot — so much that one of my other priests has said, “You are a giggly little pumpkin.  Come, join us, giggle over here.”

I say something like, “Hi!  It’s my one year coming into the church — coming through the door!  Thank you for scaring me back!”  And he replied, “That’s what I do!”

Hahahahahahhahahahaha!

One of these days, when I get more time (does that ever really happen?), I should post my “conversion story,” so you can get all the inside-joke references.  🙂